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Good morning Fiesta Owners !

Yes that is correct tuning for your 2011 Fiesta with the TiVCT N/A engines it is now available thru OBD2.
While tuning for these cars have actually been doable 8 years ago thru boot mode by passing the TC1766 immobilizer chip
on these Continental EMS 2205 .Powerboost Inc from South America where the 1st ones to be able to in fact tune one
making it turn all the way to 7000K on 91/93 Octane pump gas .
While boot mode has been available for that long you would have to find someone with
the following programmers :Ktag or Kess3(newer units), MMS, Flex/17,and Dimsport transdata would have done the trick
however that would have required sending the unit to a specific shop like I did and have it opened
it only took 3 days being the fact I live in mid north Fl and the tuner was in Atlanta (PCM tuners)
he received the unit with in 24 hrs , even send me a video explaining what he was doing and walk me thru the process.
the reflash itself took maybe 2 hours , soon as it was done . The unit was boxed and ready to be returned .
This was back in November right around holiday starting season so 3 days was very fast considering.
ALIENTECH!! is what you guys want to look for!. They have the Protocol to simply plug thru obd2.
I have yet to find anyone down here in Fl who runs that programmer or anything similar for that matter .
Green Technologies will also flash in bench mode with out having to even open the unit BUT it will still have to be
removed from vehicle obviously :rolleyes:, and other than few TY videos I don't much about them except they are very expensive.
My tune cost $450 and is a base map I am sure that someone with the right Tools and Dyno can modify further than
140HP and 128lbs TQ while may not be that much more I honestly would not know on that part.
I would assume that you would need bigger injectors, fuel rail , Fuel reg. and higher volume Fuel pump ,aftermarket intake ,etc .
Things that I have yet to see for these cars and we will probably never see .

My advice is do your research as I do not know how much a tune thru OBD2 can actually cost ,what I do know
is with remote tuning available these days is definitely worth looking into as viable option , just don't expect to
pull ST numbers .
Done by Power boost 8years ago:

Happy Tuning yall !
 

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I wouldn’t have a problem with just sending the ecm to the shop. I don’t think that the cost is excessive. Thanks for the update and heads up on this development!
It will be interesting to see how much fuel the pump driver can be induced to deliver. It won’t have to be much.
I am going to dig out the baseline Dyno results sheet and send it with the ecm. At least maybe they can get some more insight into if the rev limiter, fuel mapping and timing might be better optimized somehow. I haven’t given any thought to this in a long time.
 
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You are welcome
Absolutely I didn't think it was neither
And if in doubt dyno-chiptuningfiles.com
Has the information simply register is free
Select new file service, select vehicle and it
Will open a check box so speak section and there
You will see Stg 1 tune and Stg 2 tune
Stage 2 being a bit more specific as far as DTC removals , certain deletes and will ask for list of
Bolts ons / modifications ,and there is small brief description that states" if you wanna ask for more power Stage 2 is where is at ".I assume the car at that point will have to be ON a dyno , honestly I don't know , but pretty cool website and you can search any vehicle , and if you have questions they usually reply around 24 hrs since they are from the Netherlands 🇳🇱 but the file service is 24/7.
 
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From the pioneers themselves.
As I was curious on how much gain was feasible with basic bolt ons
And this was the response I received:

Luis,

We have seen up to 145 HP on these engines using just a long header decat exhaust.
Best regards.

PowerBoost Chiptuning

On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 10:44 AM Luis Aponte

So while many would say" idk 145 hp is not that big of an increase", the car itself only weighs 2580lbs
That's 20.8 ish percent increase, power to weight ratio be main focus , just like Honda did I the 90s
Light weight, rev happy 4 bangers rivaling everything on the streets with basic mods and tunes. If we only had similar aftermarket support, we be giving the bigger cars a run for their money on a 4 door daily comuner car 😆 , of course just like everything the bigger cars manufacturers learn and updated their
Creations to not fall behind with the little guys that cost half the price and can perform just as well , like the ST/RS while i have nothing against boost, just love the sound of N/A screaming to red line [driving]
 
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I wouldn’t have a problem with just sending the ecm to the shop. I don’t think that the cost is excessive. Thanks for the update and heads up on this development!
It will be interesting to see how much fuel the pump driver can be induced to deliver. It won’t have to be much.
I am going to dig out the baseline Dyno results sheet and send it with the ecm. At least maybe they can get some more insight into if the rev limiter, fuel mapping and timing might be better optimized somehow. I haven’t given any thought to this in a long time.
That sounds like a great idea , that way you can truly see the difference , i have yet to dyno my car even tho can tell the difference right away . Who are you going with as far as sending the unit ? As far as the Fuel Pump being a closed unit makes it hard to modify , my first thoughts would be , Walboro with aftermarket FP Regulator,definitely would need a low CAI and see if the injectors of a 5.0 would mount to the fuel rail ( they actually interchange with lots of vehicles, not sure on this case) My 92 Cadillac Deville has 5.0 injectors out of an interceptor and they mount just the original Rochester ones , the old 5.0s not the new ones , they are 4 stream with better fuel delivery into chamber . Looking forward as to what you may accomplish , hell you may be the first to reach 150hp , So good luck and keep us posted !!
 
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I will send it to PCM Tuners in Atlanta.
how did it go on that re map? he should been able to modify past 20hp with the new protocol..
 

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I won’t be sending it out until after my tax refund hits the checking account.
 
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I contacted Alien-Tech USA, and this is the response i received


The EMS2205 can either be accessed via OBD or direct to ECU
We do not sell used or reconditioned tools.
KTAG and KESS2 were discontinued in April of 2022.
Your option would be for the KESS3 in either of the 2x below formats

$3599 KESS3 with Car protocol OBD
$3099 KESS3 with Car protocol for Bench
$999 ECM Titanium – calibration editing software PROMO when bundled with KESS3

Chris Collier
Technical Sales, Alientech USA

While that is an option , i am working on a slightly different route , will have more information soon
and will definitely keep yall posted !!
 
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I contacted Alien-Tech USA, and this is the response i received


The EMS2205 can either be accessed via OBD or direct to ECU
We do not sell used or reconditioned tools.
KTAG and KESS2 were discontinued in April of 2022.
Your option would be for the KESS3 in either of the 2x below formats

$3599 KESS3 with Car protocol OBD(master)
$3099 KESS3 with Car protocol for Bench
$999 ECM Titanium – calibration editing software PROMO when bundled with KESS3

Chris Collier
Technical Sales, Alientech USA

While that is an option , i am working on a slightly different route , will have more information soon
and will definitely keep yall posted !!
There is one more option i forgot to mention the Slave version of Kess3 with protocol is $1899
Now keep this in mind guys all these options have numerous vehicles and protocols dating as far back as 1998
so buying one of these devices is an investment , not just a stand alone for one vehicle , protocols are released
just about every week .

The route i was working on is a No Go, so now I'm waiting on another Company from Europe and hopefully ill have some answers in the next 2 weeks
 
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Hello there folks , so big update i finally found a cost friendly tuner that works !
as the company from Europe was a no go either
So had to go as far a China :LOL:
PCM Tuner magic car tool with 67 integrated modules can read and write EMS2205 among other ECUs that aren't as popular or tune friendly , however ACTUAL READ needs to be done on BENCH MODE and sometimes BOOT MODE (open unit) using Module #53. checksum and writing can be done tru OBD with module #4 ,just make sure your internet connection is stable and continuous and have a handy charger or battery stabilizer or simply use gauge #2 (minimum), jumper cables like i did using my wifes Expedition to stabilize Voltage . While i did not read the unit since i already have The Original file at hand plus my ECU been opened once, in order to Tune or Calibrate you will need the Original from your own ECU, sadly sharing yall mine won't do yall any good because vin number mileage and immobilizer system . etc. The other option will be to buy from a reseller database Original files where you should be able to find the exact software used for your particular ecu, year model, vin , hardware number ect, while those files are inexpensive, the liquescence to acquire them is . Being the tool is a Master version you can use a file service from your tuner of choice or any file service and just simply flash into the unit if you do not feel comfortable attempting calibration yourself . You will need Calibration Programs if you are , ECM Titanium ,Winols , HEX Editor ,Bit box, etc. Some old versions can be used free ,good for practice while latest ones require purchase of license/certification . I myself still figuring installation and how to use some of these Programs ,good news there are free lessons on YouTube courtesy of HP Tuners as well as full academy courses you can buy from them . The concept is the same regarding what Program you decide to go with and they explain to detail in very simple terms . From what i have seen , learning the binary system is a huge help to identify maps or potential maps . There is so much information out there and even Forums that their main focus is Tuning and calibration . check out the link below
and always look ECU list before buying any programmer for that matter .
https://www.googleadservices.com/pa...=2ahUKEwjd1fiWmtCAAxXZFFkFHUWDBhIQ0Qx6BAgFEAE

Keep i mind there is an 8hr difference between this particular seller and US mainland. of course you can go with any seller you want , but at least is a start for those who want to learn like i do
 
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Good morning Fiesta Owners !

Yes that is correct tuning for your 2011 Fiesta with the TiVCT N/A engines it is now available thru OBD2.
While tuning for these cars have actually been doable 8 years ago thru boot mode by passing the TC1766 immobilizer chip
on these Continental EMS 2205 .Powerboost Inc from South America where the 1st ones to be able to in fact tune one
making it turn all the way to 7000K on 91/93 Octane pump gas .
While boot mode has been available for that long you would have to find someone with
the following programmers :Ktag or Kess3(newer units), MMS, Flex/17,and Dimsport transdata would have done the trick
however that would have required sending the unit to a specific shop like I did and have it opened
it only took 3 days being the fact I live in mid north Fl and the tuner was in Atlanta (PCM tuners)
he received the unit with in 24 hrs , even send me a video explaining what he was doing and walk me thru the process.
the reflash itself took maybe 2 hours , soon as it was done . The unit was boxed and ready to be returned .
This was back in November right around holiday starting season so 3 days was very fast considering.
ALIENTECH!! is what you guys want to look for!. They have the Protocol to simply plug thru obd2.
I have yet to find anyone down here in Fl who runs that programmer or anything similar for that matter .
Green Technologies will also flash in bench mode with out having to even open the unit BUT it will still have to be
removed from vehicle obviously :rolleyes:, and other than few TY videos I don't much about them except they are very expensive.
My tune cost $450 and is a base map I am sure that someone with the right Tools and Dyno can modify further than
140HP and 128lbs TQ while may not be that much more I honestly would not know on that part.
I would assume that you would need bigger injectors, fuel rail , Fuel reg. and higher volume Fuel pump ,aftermarket intake ,etc .
Things that I have yet to see for these cars and we will probably never see .

My advice is do your research as I do not know how much a tune thru OBD2 can actually cost ,what I do know
is with remote tuning available these days is definitely worth looking into as viable option , just don't expect to
pull ST numbers .
Done by Power boost 8years ago:

Happy Tuning yall !
Any updates with this?
 
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Any updates with this?
HI there! , as far anything else been done to the PCM , after the second flash which I did myself using a file service from the Netherlands , the cars peak at 6500K vs 6200 stock with an "open" rev limiter(7k) but it still cuts off at 6600k.

Been meaning to send the file to South America and get it flashed thru them as they can make the car turn to 7200K with peak power between 6600L and 6900K like in video ^,
just haven't had time or money to mess with , I do have videos here and on YouTube , titled "Second 7K flash attempt" the car could definitely use a clutch upgrade and polyurethane trans mounts , is not a rocket but it sure is fun to drive for what it is .

I have another post with tuner charts around Asia making the most power @6800K , there's even cammed one in Thailand with a video and that thing jumps from 4k all the way to red line is an automatic and that thing moves very well .

The one thing tho is that these IB5 transmission the gears are so gas saver oriented , that1st, 2d and 3d are narrow making 4th gear the longest gear out the 5, the car pretty much maxes out in 4th gear leaving little room for 5th, if it was like a honda where some of the old civics you cold reach 100mph on 3rd!, I think the car would gain more popularity among tuners.

For what it is I can't really complain with everything done to car I still get 37MPG and that's not even highway driving .

That video ^ is quite old the guy had other modifications to the car ,including a a NEo Piggy back stand alone, brisk racing spark plugs. and an ignition coil enhancer ( spark energizer) if i recall his best time was 15 secs 1/4mile and 7. something seconds 0-60, i cant remember , but again for crappy gear ratio wasn't bad , he also had a video where they where modifying the throttle body using one out a focus 2.0L
but never really saw any outcome.

There was post on a different forum claiming 157HP at the crank running a more rich AFR, which is pretty impressive that's 37HP over stock.

i have yet to dyno mine and is been almost 2 years since the last flash .
 
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HI there! , as far anything else been done to the PCM , after the second flash which I did myself using a file service from the Netherlands , the cars peak at 6500K vs 6200 stock with an "open" rev limiter(7k) but it still cuts off at 6600k.

Been meaning to send the file to South America and get it flashed thru them as they can make the car turn to 7200K with peak power between 6600L and 6900K like in video ^,
just haven't had time or money to mess with , I do have videos here and on YouTube , titled "Second 7K flash attempt" the car could definitely use a clutch upgrade and polyurethane trans mounts , is not a rocket but it sure is fun to drive for what it is .

I have another post with tuner charts around Asia making the most power @6800K , there's even cammed one in Thailand with a video and that thing jumps from 4k all the way to red line is an automatic and that thing moves very well .

The one thing tho is that these IB5 transmission the gears are so gas saver oriented , that1st, 2d and 3d are narrow making 4th gear the longest gear out the 5, the car pretty much maxes out in 4th gear leaving little room for 5th, if it was like a honda where some of the old civics you cold reach 100mph on 3rd!, I think the car would gain more popularity among tuners.

For what it is I can't really complain with everything done to car I still get 37MPG and that's not even highway driving .

That video ^ is quite old the guy had other modifications to the car ,including a a NEo Piggy back stand alone, brisk racing spark plugs. and an ignition coil enhancer ( spark energizer) if i recall his best time was 15 secs 1/4mile and 7. something seconds 0-60, i cant remember , but again for crappy gear ratio wasn't bad , he also had a video where they where modifying the throttle body using one out a focus 2.0L
but never really saw any outcome.

There was post on a different forum claiming 157HP at the crank running a more rich AFR, which is pretty impressive that's 37HP over stock.

i have yet to dyno mine and is been almost 2 years since the last flash .
Thanks for all the info and looking for tuning for this platform. At some point it will be interesting to see what the dyno numbers will show!
 
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Did you ever send them your ecu?
your welcome

yes! the very 1st time i send it to PCM tuners Atlanta GA

at the time he was the only one that could open the unit and extract the file straight from it, bypassing the TC1766 since i could not find anyone in Florida to do it.
since I have the original file saved from the Tuners website (dynochiptuning)

I was able to flash it the second time myself .

Now days there is plug in obd2 tune available as long as the tuner has the right tuning program and software usually green technologies or alien tech

I see you have a 2017 which makes your life so much easier already , just about any tuner should be able to get hands on and work their magic .

jackwaggon22 on here , managed 150hp on his 2014 titatnium
but he had fully build transmission ,cylinder head work, custom exhaust and bunch other things I can't remember top of my head and that was before he done a
lot other mods afterwards.

last I heard he was gonna turbo his with parts of and F250, but that was that [dunno]
 
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That’s good to know, keep us updated on any future tuning as it wasn’t thought possible here in the U.S. not too long ago. I’ll look into tuning in the future, probably next year but I also have to find out how if affects smog out here since they changed rules about tuning over here.

I just read through the posts from him, I wonder if he was able to continue on his build.
 
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yeah Cali laws are very similar to Puerto Rico where I grew up , certain days mainly at random police will close down lanes forcing people into a single , then take vehicles at "random" for visual inspection
tints, stance, HID bulbs, aftermarket mufflers, etc.. if the body seem part out, they ll match vin number to chassis numbers and or they better see receipt of quarter , hoods , trunks of different colors, other wise is a fine, and possible tow.

They will roll a tennis ball under the chassis if it gets stuck or does not pass thru , you will get a fine , if the inspection mirror does see a catalytic converter installed, is automatic impound of vehicle , plus all the fines ,and if is lowered ,tint , modified muffler, you are in for court date on top and even license suspension , not to mention in some cases jail time(usually if the person has previous violations) .

With hat being said a high flow catalytic converter is ideal for such circumstance , and they are actually quite inexpensive UNLESS is a manifold cat assembly then yeah 1300 the cheapest i ever came across (magnaflow)

HP tuners can access your year , just like Powergate (alientech us division), might want to do some research on those two options , what ever you do NO not buy any plug and play obd2 magic tuner that claims 20HP after a 5 min install , they are garbage , I even have a post somewhere on here on those things.

as far as smog test there is ways around that and still tune the vehicle , I turned the emission codes on my off when I did the second flash .

I haven't had time to sit down and do some research to see what s up in the tuning world these days for these cars , but soon as I find out something I'll post

usually I try things on my car 1st then share ..
 

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I'd love to know more about an ECU remap for these cars. My 2013 needs a little bit more pep in his step.
Would that tuner in Atlanta have the correct remap file? I've never tuned a car before and am wondering about the first step to this process.
 

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